***THIS WEEK IN EPICUREAN PHILOSOPHY – 9/27/2014***

**This is the seventy-fourth in a series of weekly updates with news from the world of Epicurean Philosophy. Our home base for discussion is https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ Copies of these posts, and links to active Epicurean websites, are stored at EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com.

**As of tonight, our participant total has grown to 568. Last week this time we were 524. We continue to grow steadily, and we welcome all participants and lurkers! We are here to discuss Epicurean Philosophy, have fun, and in the words of Lucian, “strike a blow for Epicurus – that great man whose holiness and divinity of nature were not shams, who alone had and imparted true insight into the good, and who brought deliverance to all that consorted with him!”

** If you have been following along in the posts, you’ve seen we’ve had some lively disagreement this week about a number of issues. I have posted about the background of these issues in the Epicurean texts here, under the title “The Epicurean Views the Modern Mind Finds Unthinkable: “Dogmatism” and “Free Will”: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/724882404227389/

As a result of continuing disagreement about these issues among a number of well-respected members of the group, there is now a new group forming entitled “NeoEpicurean Philosophy” https://www.facebook.com/groups/neoepicureanism/ This is being led by Stephen HB with the assistance of Tom M and others. Many of our current members of this group will wish to join that one as well. The way facebook works, that is quick, easy, and seamless. Check it out and see it described in my post here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/724336644281965/

There are many reasons for this development, but one of the ones most important to me personally is that the “Epicurean Philosophy” group has been set up with an About section and a mission of staying true to the core tenets of Epicurus. We encourage questions and debate and commentary from other perspectives, but in the end our goal is to provide a place on the internet where serious students of Epicurus can discuss the philosophy in a supportive environment. It is inevitable that not everyone agrees with the core tenets of Epicurus, and so not everyone is suited to be a participant in our group. If, after lengthy discussion of a topic, a participant finds that he or she cannot agree with a core tenet, a decision has to be reached by that participant and the group. Either the participant who is in disagreement with a core tenet moves along to another group more suited for him or her, or the participant kindly and politely agrees to disagree. What is not productive either for the member or the group is for the dissenting member to launch a campaign to disagree with or attempt to change a core tenet of the philosophy. In that sense, the Epicurean philosophy Facebook group, like the philosophy itself, is not a “Democracy.” The core tenets of Epicurean philosophy are not up for a vote. Free will is a basic element of Epicureanism, as is the focus on separating out what is “true” from what is “false.” But there comes a time when someone who is unalterably against a core tenet needs to let go of the idea that he or she is an Epicurean, and have the intellectual honestly to use the label Neo-Epicurean or some other label entirely. Our friends who are participating in the NeoEpicurean group are using this approach, and I applaud them for it.

Because the focus of this Epicurean Philosophy group has been (and will be) to promote the philosophy of Epicurus, it is incumbent on us when a post is made which is non-Epicurean or even anti-Epicurean that we point out the issues with the post. This is a desirable process and is essential to all of us learning more about the philosophy, and improving our ability to articulate it. So you will continue to see in this group many posts about determinism and skepticsm. These are ancient issues and will never be resolved; we welcome questions and discussions about them. But what we do not welcome is, after lengthy debate and discussion, a concerted campaign by an individual poster to carry on an unending campaign against the Epicurean position. Such a campaign consumes too much of our resources and is too confusing to the core target audience of this group: sincere students of the philosophy who wish to study it in a supportive and positive environment.

We welcome further discussion of this topic in this tread, but we encourage civility and courtesy toward all concerned. No one involved in these discussions is being criticized or disparaged personally. I wish success and happiness to all the leaders of the NeoEpicurean group and encourage anyone who wishes to participate there to do so.

If you wish further background on this, check out threads such as this one (a “Staring into the Abyss” podcast) — https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/722752404440389/

Also, some of this discussion took place in Helen S’s post on an interesting painting https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1554870954749472&set=gm.723867860995510&type=1

**As an example of the type of post we would like to get back to focusing our time on, this past week we had Francisco A. post an excellent discussion of practical exercises an Epicurean would advocate: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/723322327716730/

**Hiram posted on “Reasonings about Philodemus’ Rhetorica” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/723685804347049/

**Ilkka posted on “Life as the Foundation of Epicurean Philosophy” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/723690811013215/

**Haris D. posted on “Epicurean Decision-Making Part 2” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/722768687772094/

**Yiannis T. posted on an Alain de Bolton presentation https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/724365304279099/

**Ilkka posted on “Dawkins and the “We are going to die Argument” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/724527404262889/

**I want to repeat that these last several posts are exactly the kind of constructive presentation, followed by vigorous discussion, that we wish to see here in the group. Please feel free to post anything consistent with the About section of the group as you wish. We work hard here to moderate the forum carefully and fairly, and we welcome all constructive discussion, questions, and debate.

**OK that’s it for this week! Feel free to post any comments in this thread. I apologize if I missed anyone or anything. As always, if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions, please add a comment or participate in the Epicurean Philosophy Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ or hop around the internet word of Epicurean Philosophy by checking the links here: EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com
PEACE AND SAFETY!
Cassius Amicus

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***THIS WEEK IN EPICUREAN PHILOSOPHY – 9/20/2014***

**This is the seventy-third in a series of weekly updates with news from the world of Epicurean Philosophy. Our home base for discussion is https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ Copies of these posts, and links to active Epicurean websites, are stored at EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com.
**As of tonight, our participant total has grown to 546. Last week this time we were 524. We continue to grow steadily, and we welcome all participants and lurkers! We are here to discuss Epicurean Philosophy, have fun, and in the words of Lucian, “strike a blow for Epicurus – that great man whose holiness and divinity of nature were not shams, who alone had and imparted true insight into the good, and who brought deliverance to all that consorted with him!”
**
This will be a short update due to some personal circumstances beyond my control. The week was about as active as normal, but much of the conversation took place on threads from prior weeks. Here are the highlights from threads that were new this week:

**Hiram posted a long review of “A Few Days In Athens” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/719856344729995/ I continue to think this book is one of the best introductions to Epicurean views that you can find. Be forewarned that it was written in the early 1800’s, and as with much literature of that age the language can be “flowery” at times. Don’t let that stop you. Just be aware that women in the early 1800’s were very concerned with and liked to comment on clothing and appearance, and they preferred to use words like “Mercy!” as an expression rather than talking like a sailor as we often do today. The parts of the book that fit that description are actually rather few, but as each new character is introduced you may find the attention to appearance annoying. If you keep my warning in mind you will glide right over that without a concern. Almost every scene and every exchange in the book is loaded with philosophical insight, so if you have not yet read it (or listened to it) you can find it here: http://www.AfewDaysInAthens.com

**Also new this week was the fact that we had (today) the Twentieth occur. Steve Ko. is always very good with a reminder, and I posted myself a 20th message here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/721907767858186/ An event from my own life caused me to reflect back on Frances Wright’s fictional sermon from Epicurus on how to deal with the death of a loved one, and if you haven’t read the full book this excerpt is a taste of what you can expect throughout the entire work.

**Alexander posted a thread asking about Epicurus’ diet: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/721141501268146/

**Bryan posted an excellent sample of his readings from Lucretius: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=328392707340544

**The Epicurus page posted a link to a blog which compared Epicureanism vs. Stoicism https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/720358158013147/

**Tom posted a link to an article asking if we all should take lithium? https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/720176644697965/

**Haris D. posted an article about “Decision Making” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/720013928047570/

**If you’d like additional reading material feel free to refer to the “Epicurean Poem” thread started by Tom, which ranged far and wide and is still going strong even after two weeks: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716876355027994/

**OK that’s it for this week! Feel free to post any comments in this thread. I apologize if I missed anyone or anything. As always, if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions, please add a comment or participate in the Epicurean Philosophy Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ or hop around the internet word of Epicurean Philosophy by checking the links here: EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com
PEACE AND SAFETY!
Cassius Amicus

***THIS WEEK IN EPICUREAN PHILOSOPHY – 9/13/2014***

**This is the seventy-second in a series of weekly updates with news from the world of Epicurean Philosophy. Our home base for discussion is https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ Copies of these posts, and links to active Epicurean websites, are stored at EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com.

**As of tonight, our participant total has grown to 524. Last week this time we were 480. We continue to grow steadily, and we welcome all participants and lurkers! We are here to discuss Epicurean Philosophy, have fun, and in the words of Lucian, “strike a blow for Epicurus – that great man whose holiness and divinity of nature were not shams, who alone had and imparted true insight into the good, and who brought deliverance to all that consorted with him!”

** We started this past week with discussion of a series of links submitted by Tom M., including this one with an except on “chicken soup for the soul”https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/717250348323928/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716876355027994/ and this one on a poem about a mother and daughter on last parting: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716876355027994/ and this one on “how culture shapes our senses: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718187568230206/ And this one on how the American Philological Society is changing its name to broaden its outreach: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718402258208737/ And this one on abolitionism and transhumanism: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718436921538604/ In the same vein was a link to an article entitled “Is Humanism Hedonistic?” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718222478226715/

All of these prompted lots of discussions about which aspects of these could be considered Epicurean and which could not, and Elli P. prepared a graphic to focus the issue: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=822750271090447&set=gm.717464754969154&type=1

New readers should realize that we regularly post links to current articles which are of relevance to issues in Epicurean philosophy. Sometimes those linked articles will make points we agree with, sometimes we will disagree, and often there will be parts that are good and parts that are bad. This kind of comparative discussion is very helpful in bringing to light differences that are sometimes subtle and sometimes not so subtle between Epicurus and other philosophers. New readers should always ask questions and invite discussion on any topics like this, as that helps us all better understand the philosophic issues. If the world already understood Epicurus we would have a group of 500,000 instead of 500, so all opportunities to explain the truth about Epicurean views are welcome.

** Tom also posted a link to the English page of the Epicurean Garden of Athens, which has lots of good material: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718405734875056/

** Hiram posted a link with his initial comments on reading Frances Wright’s “A Few Days In Athens” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718812221501074/ Anyone who comes across this who does not already know about the book can check it out here: http://www.AFewDaysInAthens.com

**Also this week, partly in thought about some of the discussion of non-Epicurean philosophy earlier in the week, I posted this link to Thomas Jefferson’s letter to John Adams, in which Jefferson described what amounts to his own mental “reboot” sequence: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718665788182384/

**Tom also posted a link to an article that hints at Epicurean ideas in terms of “little platoons” in organizing societies: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/718773958171567/

**Ioannis A. posted a link to an English version of Kavafy’s excellent “Ithaca” poem: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/719005734815056/

**Last for the week, Elli posted a story from one of our participants about the near-death experience of his father in fighting a serious medical condition. https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/719543538094609/ This one was particularly helpful to me this week due to a similar situation I am experiencing myself. Short of the proper attitude toward religion, the proper attitude toward death is second in importance in the list of the Authorized Doctrines. The only way to prepare for death, and to live our lives with the proper sense of urgency that life is short, is to remind ourselves of these truths regularly as part of of our normal thought processes.

That reminds me of a song which I linked in one of the threads http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM8nvW0PXTk I don’t advise “worrying” on this issue, but I do think Epicurus advised that we give the issue of how best to spend our time between birth and death our full attention!
** In beginning to close, please remember that we invite your questions and discussions on any matter relating to ancient or modern Epicureanism, no matter what your level of expertise in asking the question. Even if you are a younger person studying Epicurus for a philosophy class, we invite you to ask your questions here. There is no better way for us to learn more, and have fun doing it, than to discuss Epicurean philosophy issues with new people who are sincerely interested.

Thanks to all who participated this week, and we look forward to another active week ahead.

**OK that’s it for the week! Feel free to post any comments in this thread. I apologize if I missed anyone or anything. As always, if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions, please add a comment or participate in the Epicurean Philosophy Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ or hop around the internet word of Epicureanism by checking the links here: EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com
PEACE AND SAFETY!
Cassius Amicus

***THIS WEEK IN EPICUREAN PHILOSOPHY – 9/6/2014***

**This is the seventy-first in a series of weekly updates with news from the world of Epicurean Philosophy. Our home base for discussion of Epicurean philosophy is https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ Copies of these posts, and links to active Epicurean websites, are stored at EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com.

**As of tonight, our participant total has grown to 480. Last week this time we were 432. We continue to grow steadily, and we welcome all participants and lurkers! We are here to discuss Epicurean Philosophy, have fun, and in the words of Lucian, “strike a blow for Epicurus – that great man whose holiness and divinity of nature were not shams, who alone had and imparted true insight into the good, and who brought deliverance to all that consorted with him!”

** This week featured several more in a series of basic theory posts by Haris Dimitriadis. I will cover them separately below, but I want to thank Haris for this series and the excellent discussions they have provoked. Every member of the group does not always agree on every detail, of course, but these discussions are tremendously helpful in clarifying our views on advanced topics. I hope we will continue to have discussions of this type as long as the group continues. That leads me to observe that there are several “types” of posts that are particularly helpful and appreciated. There are advanced theory posts like these from Haris. There are “question” posts, where participants (new or old) ask questions about ideas or applications in Epicurean philosophy that the group can try to answer. Another category that I’d like to encourage are “outreach” posts. These come in various types, including the graphics such as Elli has produced, the Stoic v Epicurean comparison chart I produced, the Question/Answer format Illka produces, and the “applications” posts that Hiram produces. Several weeks ago when we first discussed the Stoic/Epicurean comparison chart, we posted it on Reddit and other places, and we saw a big bump in visitors. Likewise, many of the other posts we generate, such as Ilkka’s comment on the Epicurus page about organizing by geographic area, lend themselves to “sharing” on Facebook or crossposting on Reddit or other websites. If people have ideas on creating graphic memes for sharing outside the group, are articles geared toward introducing Epicurus to new people, please feel free to offer them in the group so we can encourage their spread. We have a number of websites now which people will find when they google Epicurus. When people search on Facebook for “Epicurus” they will easily find Ilkka’s “Epicurus” page, which now has over Eighty-Two THOUSAND likes. And for those who search for a discussion group, our Epicurean Philosophy facebook group is easy to find. But in order to draw in interest from those outside who have never heard of Epicurus, not much can beat an attractive graphic meme or short essay of general interest. Please feel free to share your ideas for things like that in this thread.

** Getting to this week’s posts, as indicated already, Haris posted more in his series on the Epicurean canon. If you are new to Epicurean philosophy, what you need to know is that this is one of the most important topics that distinguishes Epicurus from other major philosophers. Many of Epicurus’ conclusions about how to live life are not unique, and thus a number of his suggestions in isolation are co-opted by other philosophers. The key to understanding how Epicurus’ suggestions fit together is found at a deeper level – that of physics and “epistemology” – the question of “how we know what we know.” These two go hand in hand, and discussion of them is therefore frequently combined, as did Lucretius in “On The Nature of Things” and as did Epicurus himself in his “Letter to Herodotus.” Physics can be reduced to a number of elemtary observations, such as the famous “no thing comes from nothing” and “no thing goes completely to nothing.” In order to grasph even these basic issues, however, we need a basic understanding of the “rules of evidence” wherein we decide that the things we “sense” (such as what we see and touch and hear) are worthy of consideration, while speculation based on (1) religious fantasy or (2) logic separated from evidence is rejected. The faculties given us by Nature (the five senses, the sense of pain and pleasure, and the faculty known as “anticipations”) along with the rules by which we use the faculties, are what is referred to when we dicuss the “Canon of Truth.” This week Haris posted a thread entitled “RECAP” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/713928528656110/ in which he commented on the elements stated in Principal Doctrine 24: ”…We cannot be confident of our conclusions unless they are justified by actual, immediate, and clear evidence, and this evidence must come from the FIVE SENSES, from the SENSE OF PAIN AND PLEASURE, and from the CONCEPTIONS OF THE MIND WHICH ARISE FROM THE ANTICIPATIONS…”

**Haris also posted on the “Healing Effects of the Epicurean Canon of Truth” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/714825085233121/

** Another important post I want to highlight was one that Hiram and Ilkka combined on to discuss the possibility of local Epicureans making contact with each other. https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/715612108487752/ I don’t read all the comments that get posted to the main Epicurus facebook page, but with 82,000 + “likes” there are people all over the world with an interest in Epicurus. If you have interest in making closer contact with like-minded students of Epicurus in your area, be sure to check out that post.

**Alexander R. posted a link on modern research into how the senses operate: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/714854488563514/

**Ilkka reminded us this week in our posts to use some basic formatting conventions 😉 https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/715583065157323/

**David Peluso posted good photographs of one of the best surviving busts of Epicurus: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=809737392390948&set=gm.712867308762232&type=1

** Hopefully we will not need to start an obituary section, but this week we had posts involving the deaths of two significant figures. The first was actually a death from June of this year that had previously not been posted here, but it involved the death of noted Epicurean researcher Diskin Clay from Duke University. DIskin Clay was a prolific academic writer on Epicurean subjects over his lifetime, and any googling of Epicurean topics will turn up multiple references to his work. The notice of Clay’s death is here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716159351766361/

** In another notable loss, Alexander R. posted that noted particle physicist Victor Stenger had died this week. https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/713292708719692/ I am not aware of Stenger writing specifically about Epicurus, but according to several posts in our group Stenger’s research has notable parallels with “atomist” theory.

** In probably the most commented post of the week, I posted a link to a new article by Richard Dawkins in which he attacks the “essentialism” of Plato and Aristotle. This is a topic that is key to understanding how Epicurus differed from the more famous Greek philosophers, and I highly recommend at least the first two paragraphs of this article as an introduction to this topic. They are important enough to quote here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/713263048722658/

“Essentialism—what I’ve called “the tyranny of the discontinuous mind”—stems from Plato, with his characteristically Greek geometer’s view of things. For Plato, a circle, or a right triangle, were ideal forms, definable mathematically but never realised in practice. A circle drawn in the sand was an imperfect approximation to the ideal Platonic circle hanging in some abstract space. That works for geometric shapes like circles, but essentialism has been applied to living things and Ernst Mayr blamed this for humanity’s late discovery of evolution—as late as the nineteenth century. If, like Aristotle, you treat all flesh-and-blood rabbits as imperfect approximations to an ideal Platonic rabbit, it won’t occur to you that rabbits might have evolved from a non-rabbit ancestor, and might evolve into a non-rabbit descendant. If you think, following the dictionary definition of essentialism, that the essence of rabbitness is “prior to” the existence of rabbits (whatever “prior to” might mean, and that’s a nonsense in itself) evolution is not an idea that will spring readily to your mind, and you may resist when somebody else suggests it.”

“Paleontologists will argue passionately about whether a particular fossil is, say, Australopithecus or Homo. But any evolutionist knows there must have existed individuals who were exactly intermediate. It’s essentialist folly to insist on the necessity of shoehorning your fossil into one genus or the other. There never was an Australopithecus mother who gave birth to a Homo child, for every child ever born belonged to the same species as its mother. The whole system of labelling species with discontinuous names is geared to a time slice, the present, in which ancestors have been conveniently expunged from our awareness (and “ring species” tactfully ignored). If by some miracle every ancestor were preserved as a fossil, discontinuous naming would be impossible. Creationists are misguidedly fond of citing “gaps” as embarrassing for evolutionists, but gaps are a fortuitous boon for taxonomists who, with good reason, want to give species discrete names. Quarrelling about whether a fossil is “really” Australopithecus or Homo is like quarrelling over whether George should be called “tall”. He’s five foot ten, doesn’t that tell you what you need to know?”

** Also posted this week was a “New-To-Us” authentic image of Lucretius. This appears to be a photographic image of the ring that was translated into an etching that H. A. J. Munro affixed to the front of his translations of De Rerum Natura. Munro wrote that this ring had been found in the excavations surrounding Mount Vesuvius, but I have never been able to find any additional information about it or where it might be located today. If anyone knows please comment. https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716161395099490/

** In another well-commented post, Elli posted an excerpt from an article by George Kaplanis (a founder of the Epicurean Garden of Thessalonika in Greece) which referenced Lucian’s “Hermotimus.” https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204250262399790&set=gm.715974875118142&type=1 I have highly recommended that dialogue before and I’ll repeat that again. The basic setting is a discussion between two students in ancient Greece. Hermotimus is a student of Stoicism, and while the other person’s school is not clear, the argument he makes favors the Epicurean viewpoint without saying so. The beauty of this dialogue is that it uses Hermotimus’ enthusiasm for Stoicism as a backdrop to show why it is important to understand as many arguments of other major schools as possible before selecting from among them. Epicureans are content to argue that if one “studies Nature” one will eventually see the truth of the Epicurean viewpoint, but the dialogue points out that those schools which erect arbitrary goals on any basis other than studying Nature (and Stoicism’s “virtue” is an excellent example of that) are inherently flawed and unverifiable. If you read only two works by Lucian, read “Alexander the Oracle-Monger” and this one – “Hermotimus.”

** As we near the end of this week’s update I want to be sure to mention a nice inaugural post from a new participant, Francisco Martinez, who asked an excellent question about the implications of Epicurean philosophy for society and politics. https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716014801780816/

**And last but not least, to balance off the newcomer, one of our oldest old-timers posted a link to an article on “alternative hedonism” https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/permalink/716145248434438/

** In closing, please remember that we invite your questions and discussions on any matter relating to ancient or modern Epicureanism, no matter what your level of expertise in asking the question. Even if you are a younger person studying Epicurus for a philosophy class, we invite you to ask your questions here. There is no better way for us to learn more, and have fun doing it, than to discuss Epicurean philosophy issues with new people who are sincerely interested.

Thanks to all who participated this week, and we look forward to another active week ahead.

**OK that’s it for the week! Feel free to post any comments in this thread. I apologize if I missed anyone or anything. As always, if you have any comments, questions, or suggestions, please add a comment or participate in the Epicurean Philosophy Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/EpicureanPhilosophy/ or hop around the internet word of Epicureanism by checking the links here: EpicurusCentral.wordpress.com

PEACE AND SAFETY!
Cassius Amicus